In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan has become a complete family man, being a devoted father and husband. Yet Mystic Gohan overpowered SS2 Goku when they fought. In this form, Goku was able to fight on par with Jiren. This was in order to test Gohan’s strength comparative to Goku. As far as individaul characters, Gohan is the strongest at the end. I'd say Full power mystic Gohan might be stronger than SSJG Goku and can probably hold his own against SSJB like android 17. Ultimate Gohan is way stronger than super saiyan 3 Goku (don't bring Hirudegarn, Goku is my favorite character but this is all dragon punch PIS). Gohan >> SSj3 Gotenks > Super Buu >>>>> SSJ Gotenks <=> FPSSJ3 Goku. He acted as a substitute for his father and put Gohan under intensive survival training. Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. DrunkenPilot72 11 years ago #5. iirc, Toriyama himself stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character in the series. Evolve 20 ( talk ) 18:35, July 14, 2013 (UTC) This crap about goku being capable of going super saiyan 2 and defeating cell but just passing the torch to gohan for him to defeat cell just because goku felt like retiring is defniitely wrong. In this case, I’ll refer to the anime released in the United States. During the Buu arc, Gotenks was definitively stronger, as Goku established he was too scared to fight the base Evil Buu without fusing, even with Vegeta's help, and this same form of Buu was the one that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was shown to be essentially even with. Goku is therefore stronger than Gohan and with that evidence, this even implies that he could be as powerful as Vegito. Base Freeza is stronger than base Gohan. The misconception fight between Gohan vs Goku in the Dragon Ball had the fan base hyped after episode 90 of Dragon Ball super. gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. The Father-Son Kamehameha is … Frieza wouldn't stand a chance against Goku like this. Gohan does become stronger than Goku, but not necessarily significantly so. Gohan would beat SSj 3 Goku akira toriyama already said gohan is the most powerful non fused character of Buu Arc, and in that thing thats exactly canon the MANGA!!!! With Goku sacrificing himself to help defeat Raditz, Piccolo is forced to train Gohan so he can become stronger. !, Goku said even tho they took out gohan, goten, trunks, and piccolo (who had kami and nail) out of super buu he still is FAR TO STRONG FOR THEM and He is way stronger than Goku/Vegeta, not about SSJ2 Gohan. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see Captain Marvel fight a Saiyan. A power-up focused on martial arts skills like physical attacks and dodging. Gohan after training with piccolo was already much stronger than Kid Goku in dragonball since he fought one on one with Vegeta when Goku before training with King Kai could not fight Raditz, But the Goten would beat all of them since he was able to transform into a super saiyan at age 7 so that round would go to Goten. after losing to cell Goku even admits that Gohan is stronger than he is. Gohan with aid lost to saganbo while goku is far stronger than saganbo. When the people of a society agree that sacrificing a child is acceptable collateral damage then IMO it has become a society that's not worth saving. 5 Ghost Rider In that episode, we saw the true return form for Ultimate Gohan as he challenged his father to a one-on-one fight. Post-Dragon Ball Z- Goku achieves the form of super saiyan god, making him way stronger than Gohan, so Goku wins this time. SSJ3 Gotenks (at least 3x stronger than Goku) defuse immediately after taking 1 hit from Hirudegarn, but not for Goku. Like Gohan, Captain Marvel can also transform when she has absorbed enough energy. REAL Logic Mystic Gohan could've destroyed Super Buu, which is waaaaay more powerful than Fat Buu. Unless Cell knows something Gohan doesn't about Kamehamehas, considering that Gohan and Cell used the exact same move against each other, Gohan is stronger than Cell by the simple fact that Gohan's Kamehameha is stronger than Cell's. Then there's Vegeta that can only access ss2. Gohan is stronger if goku is in his normal form but if they are both in super saiyan 2 form or if Goku is in super saiyan form then goku is stronger. Mystic Gohan is stronger than base Freeza. Although, it's likely Android 17 might be stronger considering Gohan had to ask Goku to use SSJB while Goku went SSJB on his own against 17. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. The first time was with the Elder Namekian, also known as Guru on Planet Namek, and the second time was with the Elder Supreme Kai back in Dragon Ball Z. I think Ultimate Gohan is because He had no problem against Super Buu befor he absorbed Gotenks SSJ3. Goku's help was negligible, all he did was tell Gohan to stop holding back. There is also a brief period in the buu saga where Gohan becomes stronger but other than that goku is stronger. It was a sort of return to the roots of the franchise. Just to make my opinion absolutely clear, Gohan is stronger then Goku at the end of the buu saga.Jpark0015 16:07, August 30, 2011 (UTC) Goku is Stronger than Ultimate Gohan when goku was powering up every one felt it even in the kai's world but when Gohan was powering up it was felt only in the kai's world. User Info: dragonball0900. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. gohan because goku ssj3 was same in powerlevel of fat buu and super buu is twice stronger than fat buu and gohan was beating super buu like anything so gohan mystic is stronger than goku ssj3. And why was kid buu the last buu in the series whe super buu was stronger. So, what happened was the Elder Kai pretty much unlock all of Gohan’s dormant sleeping potential. he needs the motivation to become stronger eg earth under threat so when he becomes strongest he is … SSJ3 Goku vs Hirudegarn : Hirudegarn is obviously stronger than Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (both of them are at least 3x Goku). Following Goku's death, he was trained by Piccolo in anticipation of the upcoming Saiyan invasion, and grew much stronger and closer to his new mentor, ultimately redeeming him and setting him down the path of heroism due to their bond. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. His battle against the yardrat made pretty clear that base Frieza is stronger than him It's clear you're a s***ty troll. Goten turned Super Saiyan on a … User Info: DrunkenPilot72. Since we never saw Vegito really try all that much except for one instance when he stopped Buu from breaking the dimensional barrier, we have no gauge to use except the evidence offered by the Kais. If you enjoyed, then like and Subscribe! The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku takes the lead again. dragonball0900 3 months ago #18. read the god of highschool. Oko500 14:23, September 14, 2012 (UTC) The title clearly says ssj2 vegeta vs ssj2 gohanK1lp1k0nna 14:42, September 14, 2012 (UTC)K1lp1k0nna View Results . Which goku, is it after kid buu fight, or GT, or newly formed ssj3 goku. Gohan is way stronger. Comment your opinion on who is stronger or better. It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Blue goku is much stronger than gohan. Gohan does not have a love for fighting like his father. Vote. I don't think he is even ss2 Goku tier. Watch one piece Goku is my favorite DB character / Hit is the best to come from super. Gohan had his power unlock twice. SSB Goku remains stronger than Gohan Gohan surpass and toys with SSB Goku but NOT UI Goku Gohan toys with SSB Goku, and surpasses UI Goku but NOT MUI Goku Gohan defeats MUI Goku Gohan toys with MUI Goku, thinks there is nothing special about it Goku and Gohan become exact equals. Now if Gotenks is that much stronger at SSJ 3 than when he was only SSj1, then he's much stronger than Goku. Goku still able to take a several beating while provoking Hirudegarn = Tough Goku is always stronger than Gohan except during the cell games when Gohan becomes the first to become super Saiyan 2. 10 Stronger: Ultra Instinct Goku. He was only base against the Yardrat. via: dragonball.wikia.com. RELATED: Eight Things They Changed From DBZ To Dragon Ball Super (And Two They Kept The Same) His strength grows exponentially by the end of the training as he is able to shatter large … Was it because kid buu was PURE evil, when Super Buu was the type to always want to turn people into chocolate and wanting a challenge. Following the death of Goku, Chi Chi was really adamant about training Goten while she left Gohan to focus on his studies. Also the fact that Gohan managed to survive an attack from SSJB Kaioken which is strong enough to easily kill Gohan and … he defeated cell when he was a child and goku couldn't as an adult. Can Gohan like in Cell Saga, catch up with DBS Goku or even surpass … Since he hasn't put this form to the test against Beerus, fans can only debate if Goku's Ultra Instinct would be enough to take Beerus down, although it's safe to assume that Beerus would have a tougher time defeating Ultra Instinct Goku than he did Super Saiyan God Goku. The form is known as Binary and during this state, her powers can be compared to that of Ultra Instinct Goku, thus making her way stronger than Ultimate Gohan. ^He was talking about Ultimate Gohan. But both moves were still a normal Kamehameha. In any … Ultra Instinct was the big new transformation added to the Tournament of Power arc. To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. And Gohan was even stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. Regardless, Gohan is far stronger than SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Goku was holding back against Broly.Rage broly never lost to ssg vegeta. 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